Darkly near...
“In a strange way, all these
decades later I am making music now because I actually "want"
to make music with no expectations and perhaps people starting out
should think the same way. Then again, what the fuck do I
know?”
Intravenous Magazine: You've been a well-known name in the scene
with acts such as Spahn Ranch and Black Tape for a Blue Girl. What
led to the decision to start NOIR?
Athan Maroulis: I had stopped making music
for many years; eventually Black Tape coaxed me back into the fold
for a Blue Girl. After cutting an album and touring with Black Tape I
really wanted to keep going yet Black Tape take quite a few years
between releases. With that in mind NOIR was born as a vehicle for me
to mold, alter and change as I wanted, while perhaps giving people
that liked my music from my past a little of that flavor as
well.
IVM:
What new challenges have starting this new path
presented for you?
AM: I am a lyricist and a vocalist with no
actual programming abilities so I need collaborators. The idea behind
NOIR was to collaborate with different people on each album to
achieve one common goal. This, in and of itself, has been quite a
challenge. Second to that the idea of starting from scratch has
proven quite challenging. Granted, my "checkered past"
affords me the ability to not have to fully start from the first rung
on the ladder yet it hasn't enabled me just to write my own destiny
either. Ultimately it has all led to a rather challenging learning
curve.
IVM: Your first full-length album 'Darkly Near' was
released last year. How has that been received?
AM: It seems that
a number of writers or critics have given it their seal of approval,
some club DJs as well as a handful of specialty radio shows have also
been receptive along with a few of my peers. This scene has certain
key provincial tastemakers (for the lack of a better word) oftentimes
they themselves are promoters, that seem to "decide" what
the audience should hear but I gave up rather quickly trying to
communicate with them, short of self-immolation, oral favors or
somehow attaching myself to the usual list of suspects (as in the top
Euro festival acts), these tastemakers seem rather impenetrable. That
said, the actual audience seems to like what we do although they too
are also a bit tricky, I just find it so baffling that people today
have access to mountains of new music at their fingertips, yet they
choose to partake or sample so little of it especially in the more
Darkwave oriented circles. While we've found favor amongst some
Goth/Industrial enthusiasts, we have also ventured outside of these
circles to perform with good results.
IVM: What was the writing
and recording process like for you?
AM: Electronic music can be a
bit removed from human interaction. A few different people worked on
the first album, a friend of mine from a different scene who wanted
to be anonymous, the producer Raphael Pepi, I brought in an excellent
vocalist named Andi Harriman to do some backups and a few others.
Like I mentioned earlier, I am a lyricist and a vocalist with no
actual programming abilities so I need collaborators. Efforts in the
future will also have multiple individuals; in fact, I was hoping to
write with at least 4 or 5 different composers on the next album of
original material. Lyrically, the 'Darkly Near' album was difficult
to write. While I penned a few words with Black Tape for a Blue Girl,
the 'Darkly Near' album was the first time I had to write as many
lyrics in over a decade. Reaching back into old routines to write was
the only way I knew yet I penned the album from the point of view
that it might be my last, hence the title. So unless a taxi hits me
today that line of thinking no longer seems accurate.
IVM: You've
recently released a remix companion to the album in 'RE:MIT:TENT',
featuring an impressive line-up of contributors. Are you happy with
the results?
AM: I am pleased with the results. At first I thought
it would be wise to split them into 2 different albums, then later
decided that since it was to only be a digital release by Metropolis
it seemed more logical to put them all together on one release. At 20
tracks it features a cross-section of artists who bring their own
style to the source material.
IVM: Were there any artists you
would like to remix Noir, or even collaborate with in the
future?
AM: There are a few artists that are on 'RE:MIT:TENT' that
I am already working with on material like Erik Gustafson who mixed
under the moniker Souless Affection. Erik actually played some guitar
on the first album as well. I've chatted with Decoded Feedback about
writing together. In the past PBK and I did a song called "An
Ending" that I was thinking about resurrecting down the road.
Reza from Inertia and I composed "Timephase" many years ago
which was utilized on the last album, perhaps he and I will work on
more material at some point? As for other artists to work with or
have them remix, well that's a bit of a slippery slope? Many remixers
tend to be a bit pricey so I tend to not think in those ways. I wish
I had an instance whereby I could work with Jim Thirlwell of Foetus
fame. He's an interesting guy with innumerable skills.


IVM: The
first album is a sensual mixture of retro and futuristic. What were
your thematic influences when writing the album?
AM: In part, I
returned to a few of the themes I toyed with when Spahn Ranch did our
album 'Architecture.' What I call yesteryear's perception of
tomorrow, the way the old World's Fair would show the future yet it
all seemed a bit surreal. Taking that surreal idea and merging it
with faded tragic film stars from the 1930s, veiled intimacy, flashes
and moments of my life, the remnants of the New York City I grew up
in and throwing it all into a pot. I realized I could do this because
there aren't any rules and storytelling doesn't have to be real but
it should in the very least be interesting.
IVM: On the album you
chose to cover 'A Forest' by The Cure and 'In Every Dream Home A
Heartache' by Roxy Music. How did you come to choose these tracks and
can we expect more covers on the next album?
AM: Oddly enough, "A
Forest" was chosen by my anonymous collaborator and was really
more of an afterthought as in something to add to the first single
back in 2012, which was "My Dear." "In Every Dream
Home A Heartache" was an accident; it was an instrumental that I
thought needed a vocal when I forced the lyrics to the Roxy Music
song on top of it. A wonderful accident I suppose? As for covers,
I've considered making the next album all cover songs. Truth is that
the early albums by the Beatles and the Stones were nearly all covers
or interpretations of classic 1950s material written by others. From
the 1920s through the 1960s that was the standard way of doing things
(with some exceptions) then it changed by 1963 or 1964 when bands
like the aforementioned started writing their own material. That said
I'd like to perhaps do an entire album of material from the kind of
artists that influenced me to create NOIR (like Bowie and Bryan Ferry
once did) or perhaps an entire album of obscure covers of esoteric
artists that are only now being heard because of the Internet. Not
quite sure but it is on my mind.
IVM: You started making music in
the 1980's, and have been involved in numerous projects covering a
range of styles. How has making music changed for an artist like
yourself in that time?
AM: Good question. Everything has changed
rather drastically, some things for the better, some things for the
worse. Recording has changed immensely; elaborate studios are
certainly no longer necessary. Oddly enough because of the nature of
electronic music I have been collaborating by mail for many years but
it changed from sending tapes via snail mail to sending files via
email. The drastic change in product sales has hurt me as well as
many of my peers. For me it hurts as an artist but also as a reissue
producer, not long ago I worked on upwards of 25 different CDs a year
where I compiled and wrote liner notes on vintage albums from Billie
Holiday, Miles Davis, Patsy Cline to name a few. When those sales
started drying up so too did the work. Shopping for music in stores
is a thing of the past now and people are far less apt to pay for
music via digital download or otherwise. Then one would think that at
least the Internet could bring more music into peoples lives yet I
find the more gadgets people have the lazier they become about
finding new things. So sales and the ability to survive off of them
have subsided yet the live performance environment has also suffered.
Hence, these are trying times, yet I have tried to adjust the best I
can. I've said it before and I will say it again, I am much happier
to be some 20 releases into my career then at the start. If I was a
20-year-old singer just starting now, it makes me wonder what the
goal would be?
IVM: You've released a music video for the lead
single 'My Dear' so far. Are you happy with the result and are there
any plans for any more videos?
AM: Oddly enough after the initial
"My Dear" video, which was completed on a tiny budget,
Artemis K made a video for his remix of "Timephase." It was
assembled purely from public domain silent film footage and it is
rather good:
Similarly,
Falcotronik cut a video for his remix of "The Voyeurs"
which was just posted to
YouTube:
The
video gives a snapshot of Noir live.
IVM: How has the band
translated to the stage and what has the reception been like at
shows?
AM: I am pleased with the reaction to our live shows. After
completing the 'Darkly Near' album I knew I needed to assemble a live
band. I befriended Kai Irina Hahn and asked her to join on vocals and
keyboards while also adding Demetra Songs also on keyboards and
vocals. It is one of the most harmonious bands I have ever been part
of; I love performing as well as travelling to road shows with them.
The reception has been very good, although we have only done about 10
shows in our first year together. I wanted it to be an elegant
presentation, colorful and so forth. I liked the idea of all of us
wearing masks on stage, a bit of dark camp you might say. I wanted to
give people something entertaining, a spectacle of sorts, after all
that is my obligation as an entertainer.
IVM: Are there any plans
for European/UK shows in the future?
AM: I would love to come to
Europe with NOIR although it's just not in the cards right now.
Perhaps, if you the reader might know a logical way to make this
happen? Please let me know.
IVM: Would you consider NOIR to been
your main project now, and if so are there any plans to continue with
Black Tape For A Blue Girl?
AM: There's serious talk of another
Black Tape album for next year and I look forward to it but NOIR is
somewhat my main project mostly because it is mine. It is almost like
a solo project in that I must work on it regularly because if I don't
then nobody else will.
IVM: You've also been heavily involved
behind the scenes as well, running Sepiatone Records as well as
managing and booking a number of other bands/artists. Has this
impacted on the way you work as an artist and how?
AM: Sepiatone
Records was a label that I ran and consisted of 1940s artists, it was
a rather short-lived venture between myself and a Japanese
distributor Yet mostly what I am doing these days is serving as an
advisor in a managerial capacity (along with booking agent duties)
for bands like Ego Likeness, Ludovico Technique, Dead Voices On Air,
Die Sektor and others. Effectively, I help bands secure record deals
and so forth from the contacts I have made through the years. During
my decade of inactivity as an artist I went fully behind the scenes
and served in this capacity, upon my return to performing and
recording it was a bit different. I learned a long time ago that
music is indeed a business yet this time around the stakes were a bit
different for me in that I don't see myself as an artist 24 hours a
day as I once did.
IVM: As a veteran performer and someone
involved in the management side of the music business, what advice
would you give to an up and coming band?
AM: I must say that I try
to remain positive about the future of music but it does look a bit
grim to me. I have certainly made references to it here yet I am just
not certain what the goals are these days? With product sales
evaporating, digital sales fading and the live environ beginning to
dry up as more clubs choose DJs or different formats such as sports,
where does one then go? What is the goal when there is no playing
field? Granted an artist can "express" themselves on the
Internet to a massive audience yet that expression is not likely to
pay your electric bill and might not even buy a pack of cigarettes.
Compounding all of this is the fact that while there are far less
streams of income for artists, there are far more actual artists out
there than when I started my career. So in a climate where there are
literally five times more bands fighting for the same tiny crumb it
leaves me with rather grim thoughts indeed. The only advice I can
give an artist is to try and move to a city that has some kind of
nightlife yet is rather inexpensive to live. When you are just
starting out there is no need to live in excessively expensive cities
like NYC, London, Los Angeles, SF and the like, so choose something
manageable like Providence, Cleveland, Richmond or any small city
that has a museum, an arts friendly movie theater, a café and so
forth with a few small accessible venues. There, find some sort of
part time job that enables you to survive but affords you the time to
spend on your art. Try to hone your craft, make your music then post
it, build your social media outlets. Create an entertaining live
show, find other like minded people, network, try to understand the
business of music, keep your ego in check, don't burn bridges, steer
clear of the drama of relationships (both platonic and intimate) that
devour time. There's plenty of time later to get married and have
children, for now those things will only force you to literally "be"
those things. There's no need for managers and lawyers until there is
a need for that and you will know if and when that happens. In a
strange way, all these decades later I am making music now because I
actually "want" to make music with no expectations and
perhaps people starting out should think the same way. Then again,
what the fuck do I know?
Noir's 'Darkly Near', and 'RE:MIT:TENT' are both available to purchase now through Metropolis Records. For more information on the band, including forthcoming releases and live shows, please visit their official website.